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Title: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: zourtney on Aug 18, 2012, 10:47 PM
Darn you loose cargo pockets. Darn you.

Tonight, my phone slipped out of my pocket and got crushed in the car door. The screen is mostly kaput. :( The board seems fine, as I was able to back it up. But the bottom 3/4 of the screen is utterly unusable. It's a shame too, because I actually liked my phone. Yeah, Windows Phone is pretty much the 3rd-world of smartphone OSes1, but I liked it.

So...I'll probably wait a few months to see what schnazz the fall phone mill churns out. Any suggestions? I've been a little...out of it the past few months. But it does seem like good stuff should be coming in 2-3 months. I can use my iPhone Ancient for a while.

My brother, Kyle, is going to let me play with his Atrix loaded up with ICS. Maybe Android could grow on me2. If so, I'm considering the Galaxy Nexus as it's "vanilla Android". And the price is almost stomachable at $350, off contract. But it's already "old"...

I'm also considering the upcoming, unannounced-but-the-cat's-already-out-of-the-bag iPhone. Guaranteed to be Apple and boring. That's a strength and a weakness.

Then there's the Window 8 Phones.....um, Windows Phone 8s, eehrm, Windows Phone 8 phones. Nearly disqualified on awkward naming, these things could still be interesting. But still, they're unannounced, not likely available before Christmas. And sadly, WP8 is still guaranteed to remain comparatively feature-light. I hate to facilitate its death (since I like WP), but....yeah.

All that to say...suggestions?


1 ...well, as in a generation or two behind the times. Not like sectarian armies of machete wielding evil. That's vile. And hopefully the mere thought won't disturb my night's sleep.
2 I'm quite tired of Verizon's robobadass (http://youtu.be/yj9yisLa4ao) schtick. Please, no more of this. Ever. Also, the "Android makes me awesome (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20122331-251/ice-cream-sandwich-adds-tons-of-new-features/)" thing churns my lunch. But mostly Verizon.
Title: Re: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: Cody on Aug 18, 2012, 11:36 PM
Oh man I heard about that. It sucks. I obviously have no advice to give you about phones, sadly.
Title: Re: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: Nick on Aug 19, 2012, 06:02 PM
Dude,  that sucks. It's nice that you still got the IOS at your disposal. Windows mobile 6 was a bit of an excuse for a phone. Buggy with no real support. With the success of the two major app stores, I think any new ones will be seen as ripe new frontier.  So having a nice staple of applications should be no problem with whatever you chose.

Personally I like the android for its seeming openness. But (in whatever iteration I have at least ) it is lacking is some rather basic functionality. Bluetooth music controls are rarely handled properly (they get passed to a non-running app rather then the one that is open) and the major (and only sanely made) podcasting app is buggy as anything Microsoft ever released. But the core of android is pleasant to use.

If windows phone 8 (or just phone (the previous version)) is anything like the zune os it should be pleasant. Apple had it right when they wove the music/podcast app right into the OS and allowed it to be seamlessly used just like the rest of the system. I think windows phone is the same way with the zune portions of the system. And I liked the music and podcast features of my old brown zune brick. I would still be using it if a dog didn't ingest parts of it. My ipod always just worked a little bit better then the zune did, but newer zunes than what I had probably closed that gap.

So, yeah. I guess what I am saying is that they all work. Apple is the mark by witch the other are measured. But they all offer something that is just their own. So go with the interface that you like the best. Androids widgets, apples icons or whatever Microsoft is calling those squares and rectangles. Everything else is just garnish.
Title: Re: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: zourtney on Aug 24, 2012, 10:18 PM
Yeah, choices, choices.

After (almost) a week with Android, I can say that there are some thing I really like (putting the Grand Canyon on my pixels, useful weather widgets...for hurricanes  :P, etc) But there are some genuinely annoying things (crashing browsers, missed gestures, buggy keyboards, etc).

The nicest thing, however, is that there's actually an app store. Like, with apps actually in it. It's handy and stuff. Windows Phone is dead in the water until/unless they have this. Even if it's 6 times prettier. Such a catch 22.

It is kinda nice to be forced to use it as my primary mobile OS for a while, though. For experiences' sake, if nothing else. There are lots of things to experiment with...and with that comes lots of opportunity for buggy software.

It seems I've come to regard my phone (whatever OS) a lot like I do my primary car -- it needs to work. Properly. Now. Weekends clamping 4wd engager baffle-thingies and late nights unscrewing stuff are great fun. I wouldn't give it up for the world. But come Monday, it's gotta do its job.

So, maybe I need a "project phone" :P (I want a project vehicle, too, but that's a story for another thread)

Anyway, early September is sounding like a hot brew of moderately interesting phone announcements. And I like not buying stuff, so I'm definitely going to be holding onto this phone for a few months. And avoiding webpages with position: fixed.

I apologize for the excessive use of the words "stuff" and "things" in this post. Yeah. And stuff.
Title: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: zourtney on Sep 19, 2012, 05:42 PM
So, now that many of the cats are out of their respective bags, does anyone have phone suggestions? I hear rumblings about some Nexus stuff, but it's not sure I care.

As of today, I'm waffling between the (unreleased) Lumia and the (presently unobtainable) new iPhone.

But the longer I wait, the less I'll know :P 
Title: Re: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: Nick on Sep 19, 2012, 08:17 PM
I like the new galaxy s3. It is huge and has top notch hardware specs.

Iphone is overrated and the new doc connector is different. But it's the measuring stick for a reason.

Yeah I got nothing. I can't decide if I want to get a tablet or not. And then, what size of one?
Title: Re: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: zourtney on Sep 19, 2012, 08:50 PM
I've played with a few 7"-ish ones and like the size. I guess it depends on how you think you'll use it. 7" seems really great for reading or ultra-portable...ness. But for bed browsing, it sounds a bit small. 10"-ish seems better for that. Until you drop it on your face..!
Title: Re: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: Nick on Sep 19, 2012, 09:13 PM
I like the 10 ish one for viewability but they are awkward to hold. The 7 inches are easy to handle and are probably more them big enough for netflix watching.  The 9 inches are a nice compromise but there are few of them and cost the same as the 10 inch ones. So yeah.  That's that.  Or I could get a 5 inch phone and call it compromised.
Title: Re: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: zourtney on Sep 19, 2012, 09:36 PM
What do you want it to run?

     `__'                 ______  ______                       /                            ===
    / * *\                |     | |    |                   //== ==\\                     //    \\
|| |    | ||             |_____| |____|                 //       _//                          //
|| |____| ||             ______  ______                ||       |_                           ||
     || ||                |     | |    |                  \\       \\                         ||
                          |_____| |____|                    \\_____//                         **


Wow is it time for bed.
Title: Re: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: Nick on Sep 19, 2012, 09:52 PM
IOS costs too much,  windows 8 is not out on anything yet and I haven't seen a phone 7 tablet so that leaves android. The nexus 7 looks nice from a number of points. But it has no hdmi or sd card. Then there are 20 other options with varying options. But the nexus is the cheapest for the features (mostly the cpu. No 2G ram tablets yet but I am sure on is around the corner. )
Title: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: zourtney on Sep 20, 2012, 07:47 PM
I have a Nexus 7 sitting on my desk, actually. I was actually searching for that HDMI port today...the non-existent one, yes (kind of a surprise / downer).

We also have this itty-bitty 3"x3" computer running Android (like Raspberry Pi + beef). With ports galore. But that's mostly irrelevant to the subjects at hand.

Anyway, the 7 inchers are nice, but don't quite feel like desktop/laptop replacements for web browsing. Biggest gripe: way too much browser chrome in landscape. But don't let that stop you :)
Title: Re: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: Nick on Sep 21, 2012, 09:01 AM
My main use would be reading away from a desk, hulu/netflix in the hammock and podcasts/book listening. The huge battery life compared to my phone while still fitting in my pocket is a bit of an allure. I think the 10in ones are just too big to take far from a coffee table regardless of how many kids I have seen awkwardly hunched over an iPad in the grocery store stumbling into things.

The kindle HD 8.9 is an interesting (but yet unseen) size.

To get all the features that I think I want I would have to pay $400. If I forgo the SD card and hdmi then I can get the (rather nice looking, actually) nexus for a seemingly reasonable price.

All in all it just seems like a good time to wait. Let them come out with something around the price of the nexus to compete. Or I could just be mistaken about how much an HDMI port would be handy. I do still have a laptop after all. I know I am not mistaken about the SD card option, that was just greedy to force people to buy the 16gb model, as it would cost next to nothing to add one (I guarantee the hardware is there, there is just no reader attached to it. It's part of the CPU.)
Title: RE: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: Frioevie on Sep 21, 2012, 01:17 PM
The links 920 is my choice!!! :)

Sent from my {amazing windows phone} using Board Express
Title: Re: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: Nick on Sep 21, 2012, 03:32 PM
The what?
Title: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: zourtney on Sep 21, 2012, 06:41 PM
This morning, I tried viewing a few "news" links on the Nexus 7. The Google News page was formatted pretty nicely. One news article was formatted great -- text content to the edges, images centered, etc. Then there was ABC's site...forcing a 3-column layout in portrait, giving me about 4 words per line and equal prominence to stupid sidebar ads. It was distracting, at best.

Reading well-formatted text on a 7" device is no doubt fantastic. If you want to read books, I'd definitely prefer it over 10-ish inchers.


(this reminds me, Randomland needs a serious CSS overhaul!)
Title: RE: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: Frioevie on Sep 21, 2012, 06:42 PM
Oops I meant the lumia! My phone auto corrected it! The lumia 920 looks nice :-D

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Title: Re: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: Nick on Sep 21, 2012, 07:39 PM
Randomland needs an overhaul.

The forums could use some polishing too.

And some nice image dumping ground would be cool.
Title: Re: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: zourtney on Sep 21, 2012, 09:15 PM
Yeah, all roads lead to "I hate Drupal 6".

Maybe "hate" is a little strong, but you get the point. Anytime I think of tidying up some small piece, I want to start over from scratch. And sort of on the subject, it'd be really nice if we could incorporate some sort of mobile upload feature. I might actually use that.
Title: Re: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: Nick on Sep 22, 2012, 09:30 PM
For uploading from your phone to the forums?
Title: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: zourtney on Sep 23, 2012, 06:16 AM
That too. I meant the main site, but a forum uploader could be ok too. (except it'd be better if we had our images only in one spot)
Title: Re: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: Nick on Sep 25, 2012, 07:53 AM
I got a nexus 7 last night. I went in to office max with only the intention of getting a new notebook and they were just sitting there. So I got one.

So far I am liking it. Much faster then my phone by far. The screen size is nice, not too small like I was fearing and it's easy to hold. It is, as z-man said, a good size for reading on. I hope the battery life is as good as they claim.

Any news on your phone dilemma?
Title: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: zourtney on Sep 26, 2012, 05:09 PM
Coolness. I guess they priced it right :) ...unlike that other company, who seem to price hardware just past the price where it hurts.

Still undecided on the phone. I want to hold a Lumia 920 and find out if it'll be overly massive. And see how the camera fares. Because I have both a camera and a phone to replace -- it better do a good job of both.
Title: Re: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: Nick on Sep 26, 2012, 05:50 PM
On no! Not the camera again!
Title: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: zourtney on Sep 26, 2012, 07:37 PM
Yeah. Pretty much... :(
Title: Re: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: zourtney on Oct 01, 2012, 08:59 PM
How's the Nexus 7 treating you? I'm a little disappointed by the battery life in the one at work. It seems good for about 3-4 days if you don't touch it..but not much longer. I'm kinda tempted to try some work-related web browsing on it, just to get a better feel for it. (Could do it under the guise of UI/UX opinion gathering on the 7" platform)
Title: Re: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: Nick on Oct 01, 2012, 09:29 PM
I rather like it. Though I did get a better keyboard for it. And all those 25¢ apps came at just the right time.

I find myself reading on it a lot and it has been good for the video streaming. It is so much more responsive then my DROID 2 phone that it isn't even funny. And android 4.1is much slicker then the 2.3 I am stuck with on there. 

I think that 7 inches is probably the best size for a general purpose non-phone device. It is easy to lie in bed and read forums or message board or whatever. I find myself using the laptop and desktop less because of it.

For me the battery has lasted as long as I have wanted to use it every time I have messed with it for a prolonged time. I don't think I have gotten it below 50% battery. I tend to plug it in if I'm not using it but it gets though several hours homework sessions looking thing up and still has lots of life. My only complaint is that it is too easy to hit the back and Home buttons while you are typing.
Title: Dudes. I broke my phone.
Post by: zourtney on Oct 02, 2012, 06:26 PM
Cool, cool. I was testing stuff out on the work one today and was liking it. The 7" is nice. Sites designed for desktop suck (too skinny in portrait, not enough viewable in landscape), but when things are formatted well, it's pretty sweet.

And welcome to the "you mean I have to pull out a laptop for that?" club :P