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Title: Taxonomy and Permalinks
Post by: zourtney on Sep 10, 2009, 08:49 PM
Randomland's URLs have changed a lot over the years. As such, the internet is littered with (at least 2 or 3) dead links. Putting up permalinks with our current system should be very workable. Here's a few "classics;" propose your own.

Suriboka pages (home) - http://randomland.net/motors/suri and/or http://motors.randomland.net/suri
The Tempo Story (home) - http://randomland.net/motors/tempo and/or http://motors.randomland.net/tempo
The Forums - http://randomland.net/forums and/or http://forums.randomland.net
Photo Gallery - http://randomland.net/gallery and/or http://gallery.randomland.net
   note: might want to use "photo" in addition to "gallery"
   another note: permalinks to photos are another huge problem we have
About Page - http://randomland.net/about

Feel free to make some suggestions, I'm sure there are others...

The following have been completed as of 09-24-2009



Page Title    Permalink URL

  • Home
  • Motors

    • S-10 Blazer Stories
    • Francine Stories

      • Courtney's, Page 1
      • Courtney's, Page 2
      • Courtney's, Page 3
      • Courtney's, Page 4
      • Courtney's, Page 5
      • Courtney's, Page 6
    • Suriboka
  • Recreation and Entertainment

    • Lightsabers

      • Four Foot Padding Lightsaber
      • Three and a Half Foot Padding Lightsaber
      • Wooden Lightsaber
  • Tech
  • Opinion
  • Reviews

http://randomland.net
http://randomland.net/motors
http://randomland.net/motors/blazer
http://randomland.net/motors/francine
http://randomland.net/motors/francine/part1
http://randomland.net/motors/francine/part2
http://randomland.net/motors/francine/part3
http://randomland.net/motors/francine/part4
http://randomland.net/motors/francine/part5
http://randomland.net/motors/francine/part6
http://randomland.net/motors/suriboka
http://randomland.net/rec
http://randomland.net/rec/lightsaber
http://randomland.net/rec/lightsaber/four-foot
http://randomland.net/rec/lightsaber/three-and-a-half-foot
http://randomland.net/rec/lightsaber/wooden
http://randomland.net/tech
http://randomland.net/opinion
http://randomland.net/reviews
Title: Re: Proposal: Randomland Permalinks
Post by: Nick on Sep 10, 2009, 08:54 PM
I have set some things up with "aliases" as drupal calls them. I don't know if it will do multi-level aliases with / in them. But I am sure there is some way to do that.

But I have done the lightsaber pages to start with and all the main links on the current side menus.
Title: Re: Proposal: Randomland Permalinks
Post by: Nick on Sep 10, 2009, 08:55 PM
For example the car-bashing 101 page is "http://randomland.net/BeaterCar101"
Title: Re: Proposal: Randomland Permalinks
Post by: zourtney on Sep 11, 2009, 07:37 AM
Are the lightsaber pages missing all their pictures too? :(

Top-level links are ok for old stuff. It seems the dead lightsaber page link was /lightsabers.php or something. I would, however prefer to find some way to do it multi-level as well. Something like /category/page-name would be fine for most things.
Title: Re: Proposal: Randomland Permalinks
Post by: Nick on Sep 11, 2009, 11:15 AM
That works for me. I like organization, makes things easy to find and maintain.
So for example we would have /motors/bumper-buddy-revival or something?

And lightsabers.php is now an alias for the lightsabers landing page. Ginda gimpy but it works. And if its a php page then it was a pre-wordpress link and so quite old.

Title: Re: Proposal: Randomland Permalinks
Post by: zourtney on Sep 19, 2009, 12:03 AM
The rudely promised music section at "http://randomland.net/downloads/music"
Title: Re: Proposal: Randomland Permalinks
Post by: zourtney on Sep 19, 2009, 11:24 AM
Multi-level aliases are a go in drupal. Piece of cake!

Check out the Francine pages --> http://randomland.net/motors/francine
I aliased the story pages to /motors/francine/part
Title: Re: Proposal: Randomland Permalinks
Post by: Nick on Sep 19, 2009, 01:54 PM
Too bad the bread crumbs don't seem to realize this.. I wonder how one fixes that.
Title: Re: Proposal: Randomland Permalinks
Post by: zourtney on Sep 20, 2009, 11:26 AM
Hmmm, you're very right on that. I don't know what's up with that...

I enabled the "category" module and was trying to play with that for a little bit this morning. Have you tried that one? It seems like what we want, but might not offer anything we don't already have set up. And I'm not good enough with those Drupal views to know how to query for stuff in specific categories...making it entirely useless.
Title: Re: Proposal: Randomland Permalinks
Post by: Nick on Sep 20, 2009, 02:45 PM
My take on the category module (its not a standard one) is that its just another way to do the same thing. Using "category" terms rather then taxonomy terms. But I am not completely sure. 
Title: Re: Proposal: Randomland Permalinks
Post by: zourtney on Sep 20, 2009, 10:48 PM
Yeah. I was thinking it was cool until I realized it is essentially the same, but with a dedicated admin page. So it's probably not worth too much to us.

I think part of my confusion lies in that we have it set up so "sections" do not apply to blog posts. I've been using the blog content type for casual news-like posts (ie the recent Courtney's Crappy Music post which is on the front page right now. I have been using book pages for multi-page stories like Francine. I have been using "page" (I think it's called) for simple static stuff like that MonoDevelop theming howto.

Maybe I'm using these wrongly. I can't sleep :(
Title: Re: Proposal: Randomland Permalinks
Post by: Nick on Sep 21, 2009, 12:40 PM
I think the type "story" is the default for casual posts and what not.

By default, a page entry does not allow visitor comments and is not featured on the site's initial home page.

A story has both those by default. I was just going off the descriptions given by the drupal admin pages. The main difference with the "blog" type is that it automatically shows up under your personal blog, as though you were making mention of a personal note or story. Its all basically semantics as they can all be made to behave like one another. 
Title: Re: Proposal: Randomland Permalinks
Post by: zourtney on Sep 24, 2009, 10:38 AM
Updated the first post (http://randomland.net/sites/all/modules/smfforum/index.php/topic,50.msg353.html#msg353) to reflect links we've set up within the past week or two. I'd like to see these become the foreverstandard...unless someone objects.
Title: Re: Proposal: Randomland Permalinks
Post by: Nick on Sep 24, 2009, 11:20 AM
I like.
Title: Re: Proposal: Randomland Permalinks
Post by: zourtney on Sep 24, 2009, 11:34 AM
I suppose we could make a static drupal version of that manual site map, but site maps are so twenty-oh-three.
Title: Re: Proposal: Randomland Permalinks
Post by: Nick on Sep 24, 2009, 11:55 AM
That makes it sound futuristic :) But I see what your doing.
I know its all about the google rankings. No one browses sites, they find them on ta google.
Title: Re: Proposal: Randomland Permalinks
Post by: Brad on Sep 28, 2009, 09:22 AM
Actually I think they do site maps in XML now and submit them to Google so their robot can better crawl your website.

http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=156184
Title: Re: Proposal: Randomland Permalinks
Post by: zourtney on Sep 28, 2009, 03:22 PM
Which brings us back to a design suggestion -- adding a search bar to the site. The default one seemed to perform poorly. It's also ugly. Most importantly, though: it's missing.
Title: Re: Proposal: Randomland Permalinks
Post by: zourtney on Oct 18, 2009, 11:17 PM
I'm not sureif I mentioned this before or not, but I have started making my personal blog posts with date-conscious URL aliases.
eg: randomland.net/zourtney/2009/10/whatever
I have done this to reduce name collisions. Plus anything dumb I write in there is likely to be more date/event related. I see no reason to do this elsewhere on the site. For example motors/francine is pretty freakin' timeless and spans several years.

Now you know. You are not obliged to care or comply.
Title: Re: Taxonomy and Permalinks
Post by: zourtney on Oct 22, 2009, 05:28 AM
As Nick mentioned on another topic, we should flesh out our taxonomy a bit more. It is my opinion that the breadcrumbs, URLs, and taxonomy should all match. They are one in the same, in my mind.

So, I have been setting up URLs as such, nut have been slacking on makin the taxonomy match:
Motors
    Francine
    Tempo
    Blazer
Rec
    Camping
Tech
    Creating a Drupal Module book (needs sub-category?)
Opinion (flat currently, I do believe)
Reviews
    (one for each section: motors, rec, tech, opinion)

There's probably more I'm missing. Like the blog sections.
Title: Re: Taxonomy and Permalinks
Post by: Nick on Oct 22, 2009, 07:07 AM
Maybe
Title: Re: Taxonomy and Permalinks
Post by: Brad on Oct 22, 2009, 08:04 AM
Where would an article on Boba Fett costume construction go?
Title: Re: Taxonomy and Permalinks
Post by: Nick on Oct 22, 2009, 08:16 AM
Under

And then either go one level farther and add a costumes or sometihng below projects. Or just put that into the free-tagging box when the article is posted. Though there will probably be more costume write ups so a costumes sub-term would be ok. Its better to have to many terms then to have everything lost into the free-tagging box (not that they are really lost, just less useful for site organization)
Title: Re: Taxonomy and Permalinks
Post by: zourtney on Oct 22, 2009, 08:26 AM
I might recommend against a "projects" term. It's kind of vague. What would you gain from having it Home > Rec > Projects > Costumes rather than a simpler Home > Rec > Customes. Anything can become a "project"...!

The same thing goes for the forum boards. I just couldn't think of anything better.
Title: Re: Taxonomy and Permalinks
Post by: Brad on Oct 22, 2009, 09:02 AM
I also vote for the lack of a 'Projects' category.
Title: Re: Taxonomy and Permalinks
Post by: zourtney on Oct 23, 2009, 09:37 AM
A suggestion for the image taxonomy:
Create a term for whether or not the image should be displayed in the "random images" box. Some things are a little too boring to see as a random image, in my opinion. Things like my Drupal admin page screenshots. Boooring.
Title: Re: Taxonomy and Permalinks
Post by: Nick on Oct 23, 2009, 05:08 PM
I had that same thought and was thinking bout how to do that. Simplest way would be to just add a check box.
Title: Re: Taxonomy and Permalinks
Post by: zourtney on Oct 25, 2009, 11:37 PM
I was going to set up some URL aliases for user image galleries.

What do you think:
/gallery/[user]
or...
/[user]/gallery
?
Title: Re: Taxonomy and Permalinks
Post by: Nick on Oct 26, 2009, 04:00 AM
I don't know. I like the idea but I cant decide what makes more sense. I guess /galleries/user.
Title: Re: Taxonomy and Permalinks
Post by: zourtney on Oct 26, 2009, 04:18 AM
Yeah...we're not really a user-oriented site, so gallery/[user] makes a little more sense. That's how I started doing them, when I wasn't thinking.

Technically, you could do anything you want and they don't need to match. But I like consistency. As of now, mine is randomland.net/gallery/zourtney.